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Posted: 05 Oct 2012 08:30 
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Given this question's Deceptivity of 45.33, I'm guessing I'm not the only one to get hung up on the "musically immortalized" portion of the question and answer "London Bridge over Troubled Water".

I don't see it listed as a Most Common Wrong Answer, but perhaps the Commish is not reporting those for the ML.


Posted: 05 Oct 2012 08:53 
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Yep, I did that too. ><


Posted: 05 Oct 2012 09:10 
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I nearly put "waters". I wonder how many did that (or if they did, if they got dinged).


Posted: 05 Oct 2012 09:50 
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HuffJL wrote:
Yep, I did that too. ><


Me three.


Posted: 05 Oct 2012 10:26 
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Me four...


Posted: 05 Oct 2012 11:25 
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Aye. And I lived in England for five years, so it's particularly embarrassing, even though I haven't been back in ten.


Posted: 05 Oct 2012 11:51 
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Lived there for 2-1/2 years and I put...

LONDON BRIDGE EVERYBODY HURTS

It's a good thing my opponents have gotten 0, 0, 0, 5, and 0 questions right against me.


Posted: 05 Oct 2012 13:04 
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TerpstraR wrote:
I nearly put "waters". I wonder how many did that (or if they did, if they got dinged).

I too mistakenly ID'd that as London Bridge, but my thought process on the above was "Why not go with London Bridge over Troubled Waters?" After all, the Commish rules answers as correct up to a point. I think we talked about this with song titles before, and anything after the correct answer would still be correct (e.g. "Tower Bridge Over Troubled Watership Down With Love Stinks" would technically be correct, although ridiculously long)


Posted: 05 Oct 2012 17:51 
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I also fell (ahem) for London Bridge, led astray by the "immortalized in song" part of the clue. (I dismissed the possibility that I was being clued that the music was a song.)


Posted: 05 Oct 2012 19:18 
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I too went with London Bridge over Troubled Water. I actually thought about Tower Bridge but went with London Bridge because that was more musical (two song references instead of one). Even thought it looked like the Tower Bridge, I managed to convince myself that I would not be able to distinguish the two in a police lineup. Also, since there was no obvious date on the photo, I rationalized that it could have been a older picture of the London Bridge.


Posted: 05 Oct 2012 19:23 
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MoserK wrote:
I think we talked about this with song titles before, and anything after the correct answer would still be correct (e.g. "Tower Bridge Over Troubled Watership Down With Love Stinks" would technically be correct, although ridiculously long)

my memory of it was that if you add words before or after the song title and they are correct lyrics in the song sung before or after the title, then it's okay. for the human league song "don't you want me", "don't you want me baby" was okay but "don't you want me davey" would not have been.

(another london bridge over troubled water here.)


Posted: 06 Oct 2012 00:53 
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I also placed the London Bridge over troubled water. I rationalized that it made "immortalized in song" doubly appropriate, and also I decided that I saw an American flag on the bridge. It's one of those B&A questions where, if you get a particular half, the overlapping word is too generic to help at all with the half you don't know: I figured out "Bridge Over Troubled Water," and all that told me about the first half was that it was a bridge, which I could already tell from the picture! "Real Salt Lake Victoria" could fall into that category as well, if you knew your soccer but not geography. (I have the opposite problem, got Lake Victoria, and was stuck in the "[location][nickname]" pattern of teams, wondering what place would have a team called The Lake, but I digress.)

As for "Tower Bridge Over Troubled Waters," I think it would be accepted, considering that I've gotten credit for "A Fish Named Wanda Sykes" and "The Greenwood Community College Human Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!" (In my defense, I did have the correct words at first, before agonizing over them and changing to the wrong things.)


Posted: 06 Oct 2012 05:57 
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PahkJ wrote:
MoserK wrote:
I think we talked about this with song titles before, and anything after the correct answer would still be correct (e.g. "Tower Bridge Over Troubled Watership Down With Love Stinks" would technically be correct, although ridiculously long)

my memory of it was that if you add words before or after the song title and they are correct lyrics in the song sung before or after the title, then it's okay. for the human league song "don't you want me", "don't you want me baby" was okay but "don't you want me davey" would not have been.

(another london bridge over troubled water here.)

I'm not sure. Rule 5a.3.1 would lead me to believe that if the title is simply "Don't You Want Me" and you add any extraneous info after the title (e.g. "Don't You Want Me Hitler") you'd still be deemed correct. Perhaps I'm wrong...

Jeopardy! would differentiate between Bridge Over Troubled Water and Bridge Over Troubled Waters, no?


Posted: 06 Oct 2012 07:57 
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GoodreauS wrote:
…considering that I've gotten credit for…"The Greenwood Community College Human Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!"…


While I didn't get credit for "The Glendale Community Human Being for the Benefit of Mister Kite" which I would think had to be down to the Glen/Green switch and not Mister/Mr. or the lack of exclamation point.

However, as to the extraneous end material, I did get credit for "The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret Mitchell's Gone With the Wind".

And, as to the topic at hand, though my gut originally said London Bridge, my brain was kind enough to put in its two cents before I submitted, to remind that it was in fact Tower Bridge.


Posted: 06 Oct 2012 08:42 
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GoodreauS wrote:
...I've gotten credit for ... "The Greenwood Community College Human Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!"


Ugh, I'm afraid that one was a scoring error. "Greendale" was a required element for that answer. That's a mistake on my part. I suppose an apology to Mr. Goodreau's opponent is in order.

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Posted: 06 Oct 2012 12:16 
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Commissioner wrote:
GoodreauS wrote:
...I've gotten credit for ... "The Greenwood Community College Human Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!"


Ugh, I'm afraid that one was a scoring error. "Greendale" was a required element for that answer.


I'm hoping to convince the Commissioner that one of the options considered for the mascot was the Greendale Educator, thus resulting in "Greendale Eddie Izzard".


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